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God Opts Destroying Universe If Situation Proceeds Towards Negative Day By Day
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Devotee:

The implementation of ethical values in practical life is not seen starting from a peon in the office up to highest ruler of the country. The moral values are failing in every walk of life of all categories of humanity. How to control this and bring a perfect set up?
 
Shri Swami Replied:

At the outset, I am answering your question in a straight way before its further elaboration. The single sentence of answer here is that
unless an inbuilt resistance to sin in each individual is developed based on fear for sin due to the unavoidable punishment from God, no practical solution is possible and you have to brood over like this forever! Of course, if the situation is not improving and instead, is proceeding towards negative side day by day, the only solution leftover for God is to destroy this world and create it once again after strongly reforming the souls to great extent in a specially created hell. The punishments create lot of inbuilt fear to control the sin even though total and permanent reformation is not possible. If the medical treatment fails, the only way leftover is surgery.
 
The anger of God towards the humanity affects the nature. The natural calamities indicate the tension of God regarding the reformation of humanity. Various deities and deities of planets etc., enter into action giving frequent warning bells to the humanity. The warning bells exist in the visible-imaginable domain like earthquakes, Tsunamis, decrease of thickness of ozone layer etc. The mechanisms of the warning bells exist in invisible-imaginable domain, which are the scientific phenomena. The root source of these warning bells exists in the unimaginable domain called God, which is the unimaginable will. The same unimaginable will becomes imaginable will in the case of Divine Father, who is unimaginable God in imaginable energetic form. Both these unimaginable and imaginable will can be called as will of God in general.
 
Scientists try to bring the unimaginable domain into invisible-imaginable domain since unimaginable domain is not touched by them. By this, the scientists try to find the source of these warning bells in the imaginable nature itself, which is termed as environmental pollution. The reasons for this environmental pollution is fixed to certain mistakes like industrialization, use of plastics, liberation of smokes etc., about which the humanity is warned by scientists for rectification. The whole path and goal of science is in the visible and invisible regions of imaginable domain only called as scientific reason.
 
Even if we confine ourselves to this scientific domain only, the psychology of humanity to commit such mistakes is not changing due to its ignorance and ambition, which could not be controlled by scientists. Even the psychiatrists are unable to do this control of ambition in humanity. Even though science tries to remove these mistakes by smashing the ignorance through scientific explanations, the ambition is continuing the mistakes even in the absence of ignorance. For example, science proves that industrialization is the cause of pollution. Even though the reason is known, control of industrialization is not implemented due to ambition since mere removal of ignorance and establishing truth by science (regarding industrialization leading to pollution) fail to remove ambition. Forests may be developed as sinks for absorption of carbon dioxide, but throwing plastics has no sink except to control psychology through the concept of sin and God.
 
Science fails to control the ambition even though it can remove the ignorance. Even though science says that ambition should be controlled to control the industrialization, such advice is not effective since it is not cared by the public. Every fellow starts an industry to become rich and preaches simultaneously that all the other human beings should control ambition- based industrialization. He pours a cup of water in the drum expecting all the other people should contribute milk through cups. The destruction going to come through pollution is neglected and is not seriously thought of in the mind of everybody. All this proves that science is a total failure in controlling the root cause, which is ambition. The reason is that science neglected the unimaginable domain limiting itself to visible and invisible regions of imaginable domain only. A cause of the pollution is industry and this point is perfectly scientific and agreed by all. The cause of Industry, the ambition, is non-controlled by science. Science is unable to enter this internal background (ambition) of study of external physical rationalism. This background is purely controlled by spiritual knowledge.
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Hi dattaswami,
Did you take this from one of Shri Swami books? if yes, can you maybe add that it to the book shelf so we may read the full book?
the book shelf is here http://myspiritualgroup.com/msgshelf/

Thank you.
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yes. Taken from Shri Datta Swami's books. Thank you for your offer.
The book is uploaded at the link location.

- surya (disicple of Shri Datta Swami)
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Indeed, if man doesn't change and unite for the sake of existence then GOD will form a new creation fully of IT's will. The explanation of the natural phenomena being both a result of the greed of man, and proof that something has got to give was on point.

Greed.If t can be found out and done away with.... then.... maybe....

Good topic;
Thanks,

peace

faith in selfless unity for good
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(04-08-2017, 04:22 PM)admin Wrote: Hi dattaswami, namaste  BIGsmile ,
I was atracted here by your Title. God never destroys anything so please stop with your wishful thinking. 
Sciennce theorises that the Universe will experience a possbile Big Crunch which will lead to the point of singularity. I warn humanity that singularity of the devine aspects given to humanity will be united with their help or without. The point to singularity is the God state. It is a cyclical occurance constructed by the greatest Scinetific mind ever created in time. The hell you write of is called the Antiverse. Imagine a negative relfection of the world existing with the inability to feel anyhting. It is not a nice place. Humanity has time to experience the God state in the human form before the Big Crunch love thy neighbour, stop the terror, be alert to the power of the word. Do no harm not dificutl to folow the straight path. We have been presented this reality from the mind of God and Jesus (pbuh) conected to that mind and assisted God in thinking for a number of generations it is time for the next thinker to rise and deliver on the promise to create heaven on Earth.
Here is my introduction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o6ryqQFcRg&t=8s 

Thank you.
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The Lord says in the Bible “Revenge is mine” which means that the Lord punishes the unjust people.

If a sinner realizes his sin and repents, the punishment is reduced. After repentance if you do not repeat the sins, the punishment is cancelled. If the sinner does not repent, he will repeat the sin again and again. Such a sinner can be controlled only by punishment. If this were not true, the police department would have no use. There are some sinners, who can be controlled only by third degree treatment (severe beating and physical punishment).

If such punishment and revenge were not necessary and if everybody could be transformed only by preaching, then what is the necessity of the existence of hell and ‘liquid fire’? If there was a possibility of transformation only by love and knowledge, why would the Lord mention the word ‘revenge’ at all? Therefore it is clear that there are some sinners who cannot be transformed by love and knowledge.
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(04-10-2017, 08:14 PM)dattaswami Wrote: The Lord says in the Bible “Revenge is mine” which means that the Lord punishes the unjust people.

If a sinner realizes his sin and repents, the punishment is reduced. After repentance if you do not repeat the sins, the punishment is cancelled. If the sinner does not repent, he will repeat the sin again and again. Such a sinner can be controlled only by punishment. If this were not true, the police department would have no use. There are some sinners, who can be controlled only by third degree treatment (severe beating and physical punishment).

If such punishment and revenge were not necessary and if everybody could be transformed only by preaching, then what is the necessity of the existence of hell and ‘liquid fire’? If there was a possibility of transformation only by love and knowledge, why would the Lord mention the word ‘revenge’ at all? Therefore it is clear that there are some sinners who cannot be transformed by love and knowledge.
Cannot, or will not?

Good post

peace

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Optimal Unity offered a youtube link.

May I ask dattaswami and popsthebuilder if they have viewed it and given it the consideration, which is its due if they are to take a balanced position on this debate?
I am a Spiritual Being having a Human Experience
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how long are we going to be stuck on religion?

if we do not let go and come to a place where we realize we know nothing. we will alway be stuck on old programs.

maybe everything is exactly as it must be?
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This is very interesting post,

I believe there are things that cannot be answered. I do not believe God is as harsh as the bible sometimes portrays. I have seen the forgiveness of God in my own life. He is more kind and understanding. He truly understands life through his son jesus.

When it comes to this topic I believe there is no right answer, I also referenced to OPTIMAL UNITY's post. The God state and antiverse are things I am unfamiliar with and I am not sure about.

Ultimately it comes down to religion and its interpretation. I have come to notice more and more people seem to look down upon religion and blame it for societies problems. The reason for the societies problems is not because of religion. IT is because individuals use the power and influence of religion for themselves. It is greed and the individuals who use religion because of its influence and power on people.

There is good in religion, It is a path of spirituality for many people who search for deeper understanding. Religion brings people together and saves lives. It gives a purpose to life for many people. IT is a spiritual path, the search for understanding in a persons current life.

I hope this adds to the debate, an understanding of religion and humanity is necessary to approach this questions. The use of fear is used for control. As those of us who are spiritual know, Control is never the answer. Understanding is the truth and sees through illusion of fear. I believe humanity has shaped religion and things (like the bible) to reflect their beliefs. When in reality the truth come through understanding of God himself and the understanding of our own people.
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